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Orion telescopes are known for their quality and exemplary customer service (after the purchase). I have owned over half a dozen scopes and the Orion SpaceProbe 130ST EQ Reflector is a great scope for the beginner, and is also a highly portable scope for the amateur. There are so many things to like about this scope. First of all, I have always liked reflectors, since the eyepiece is at a height that is convenient for viewing. (A refractor is much harder to look through, especially at objects directly overhead). At 27 pounds, this telescope is quite portable, enabling one to excape one's backyard for other viewing locations if desired. With its equatorial mount, once properly set up, the scope will follow the night objects with a tiny twist of the RA control wheel. Many newbies do not realize how fast stars, planets, and the moon drift from east to west, so having a manual fine control knob to follow objects across the sky is a huge plus. (Note: An optional EQ-2M or AstroTrack electronic drive can be added for automatic tracking - see Orion website). The tripod is best set up on grass or solid ground, rather than a deck, patio, or concrete surface, as the tripod legs may skitter or vibrate a bit on an artificial surface (Some people put rubberized thin carpet tags under the tripod bases when they set up on asphalt or concrete). Orion provides a one-year warranty, which provides peace of mind. As far as viewing is concerned, this is a great scope for crystal-clear images. It has a wide field of view due to it shorter focal length (f/5), so objects are a bit easier to find. The 130 mm (5.11 inch) optical parabolic mirror gathers enough light to make images bright and clear (especially compared to a refractor). The light-gathering power of this scope is what makes it so special. In order to see celestial objects clearly and distinctly, enough light needs to be gathered and focused to a sharp point. This scope accoplishes this - stars are pin-point and planetary views show the moons of Jupiter (cloud bands on Jupiter), rings of Saturn, and more. Being a short focal length scope I think this instrument excells at star clusters, nebula, Messier objects, etc. The lunar views are quite good - sharp and clear. The scope comes with 2 eyepieces (25mm and 10mm). You may want to purchase a "shorty" barlow lens for added versitility. The barlow magnifies the views of the two eyepieces by 2 power, effectively giving you 4 different views. The shorty barlow gives a wider range of viewing options, especially for planetary and lunar viewing. Orion Shorty 2x Barlow Lens, 1.25" I don't think you can find a better starter scope for a child or teen interested in astronomy. Yes, you pay more for this scope than the much cheaper store brands, but the extra money buys QUALITY - which cannot be stated enough. Observing with a quality instrument is pure joy, compared to the frustration of a cheaper store scope. This is a good scope at a reasonable price. (A scope like this one will also hold its resale value compared to the store-bought cheapies). Recommended. konedog

I bought this telescope as a birthday gift for my husband and he absolutely loves it. I wanted something that was ok for the beginner, but had enough "growing room" that once he really got going he would still enjoy it. This telescope is the perfect combination. Orion shipped this out really fast even though I only opted for standard shipping. It took less than a half an hour to put together and is easy to move around (from the deck to inside, etc.). The picture of the sky is crisp and bright and as far as I can tell, well worth the money.

my husband spent about a week deciding on the perfect scope and looking at ALL types, he decided on the orion. it is FANTASTIC!!!!! he is really enjoying seeing everything there is to see. yes, if you buy this, you too will be outside.

I purchased the 130St about two years ago ever since I've had nothing but enjoyment from this telescope. On my first observation I picked up the double cluster in Perseus(NGC869 and NGC884) which was so clear the stars looked like bright pinpoints of perpendicularly crossed lights. Venus was also quite amazing to see, its cresent disk could be easely and clearly seen. I later on saw Saturn you can easily see its rings and moons,and Jupiter was a sight to see with propper focusing you could easily see its cloud belts. Galaxy's where clearly seen on dark nights ,but don't expect to much on galaxy's because they are so far away even a twelve inch scope won't pick up much more than a five inch scope. I can't say enough good about this telescope it comes with great accessories and every thing you need to get you going.

I already own an 8 inch GOTO telescope, and although I love it, it is quite an affair to setup, and is quite heavy. I leave my 130 ST scope in the garage, and can be observing in a few minutes. The scope is light but stable, and sturdy. The adjusments are smooth, and with the optional drive, I can track stars, if I will be viewing for a longer time. The planets came sharply into view, so I think it is a great intermediate scope, and one you can take with you on a trip. (The manual was also very clear)

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This telescope is my more like a toy. It's large but also very light and unstable. We tried for several hours to use it with bad to medium results. Mostly bad. The software is also old. This telescope would be fine for a child of five to maybe eight years old, but not for a serious user or someone who wanted to study the night sky. I guess considering the price, you get what you paid for, but I honestly believe, that due to it's construction it should have not been priced more than half what it's advertised for.

I bought this telescope for my 9 year old son and he loves it. I just have to remind him that it only works when there are no clouds above. It has been really cold here in Kansas so we were limited by the weather. We are looking forward to some clear nights so we can enjoy the stars, planets, and moon. It was very easy to assemble and we were able to start using it within 20 minutes. I'm sure we both will have alot of fun together. I would reccomend this telescope to any beginner as it is a good price and great product.

I purchased the telescope for my son. I do the setup and alignment of the telescope on targets and found it to be very easy to use. The 20mm and 6mm lenses give you great views. The Planetarium CD is also a nice addition. It was a worthwhile purchase and I recommend this telescope.

I have this tendency to look for a cheaper product when I'm not sure if I'll be interested in something, then purchasing a better one later on to fulfill my original thought. The FS-80 was just such a purchase. The FS-80 is easy to set up and use for the beginner looking to see the moon close up, or see Jupiter as more than a dot in the sky. My only complaint is the mount. The slightest touch of any part of the mount or scope, and it shakes so much you have to step back and wait for it to calm down. While this seems bad, you learn to compensate for it. I'll be moving on to a better scope when I have the money to do so, but I will pass this down to the kids.

This was a great gift idea for someone just starting out. The software was easy to follow along and the item came almost fully assembled, only had to attach tripod. So it made it all very easy.

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The Nexstar 4 SE is a great buy at $499. This is a real telescope, not something bought at a discount store. The Goto tripod works well and is stable. The only thing missing is a low power eyepiece. A 40mm eyepiece would be nice. It comes with a 25mm. Add a 2X barlow or a few other eyepieces and you've got it made. It's small enough to leave set up. I won't call it a grab and go telescope, but it's close. For planetary, lunar, and solar(FOR SOLAR VIEWING YOU MUST BUY A SOLAR FILTER!!! DO NOT LOOK AT THE SUN WITHOUT ONE!!! IT WILL BLIND YOU FOREVER!!!) this scope is great. For deep space you'll want something bigger. I'm not saying you can't see deep space objects, you can, but they won't look like pictures from the Hubble.

I'm not an astronomy major, neither an expert in optics. Got it for my 10-year old son. I suspected this might be a good product, but couldn't even imagine how great it is, considering all bells and whistles. Now both my son and my husband are hooked. So far their only complains were about weather and seasons. It's too cold outside when its dark in winter and it takes too long to wait for the night time in summer :)

I purchased the scope from a chain camera shop during a 50% off clearance sale. The scope appears to be well made. The tripod and mounting are solid. The optics seem pretty good but it has been hard to get a sharp focus on Jupiter and Saturn. Moon viewing has been great. I bought the lens accessory kit as well but have been unable to get a sharp view on the planets. I have not had much luck with the sky align. Half the time the align fails and when I do get a good alignment it has only been marginal at finding objects. I normally resort to a sky map for navigation. The spotter scope is great when properly aligned to the telescope and it is easy to align. The scope is much better than the Tasco toy scope I had when I was a teen, but I wish I could get a sharp focus on the planets.

Found this easy to use. I chose this one to buy as my first telescope after reading several reviews concerning a few different telescopes and comparing prices vs features. The NexStar 4 SE telescope set up rather quickly. Sky align worked well, though sometimes the scope seemed to become less accurate as the hours went buy, and I tried to re-align to different stars but eventually I encountered the same alignment results. The motor does sometimes jump and looses track of objects. Approaching the objects from a certain side seemed to help, as mentioned in the instruction book. I did have to buy the additional eyepiece/filter kit. Clarity was rather good up to 6mm eyepiece, though the 4mm was pretty blurred, even for moon views. Although the AC adaptor is a necessity for continuous power, I found out I already had one that fit my telescope from a car seat back massage/heater cushion which also had a car cig adaptor (which I bought for $19.99). The computer info included in the hand controller is great though some of the 40,000 objects might not be viewable. I had problems finding some nebula and galaxies, maybe that are too faint. I have seen Andromeda Galaxy, Orion Nebula, great Moon views, a very blurred mars view (cannot see any features), and extremely blurred Uranus (basically just blue color blurred). I would have given it a 5 out-of 5 had the motor tracking been smoother, alignment stayed accurate. Besides that it met my expectations.

This is a great telescope for many reasons. First, it is very easy to use. Most telescopes out there, even if they are computerized, are still difficult to align to the night sky before beginning use. The Nexstar 4SE with the sky align makes it fool proof because you only need to point it to 3 bright objects in the sky with no need to know what they are. One of the easiest ways to align it to the night sky is using a the Solar System Align. If you don't want to choose and point it at 3 bright objects, you can choose the moon. The moon is very easy to spot and easy to point the telescope. To me, this is the easiest alignment of all. After a few minutes setting them up, I found Jupiter easily after using the moon as the alignment object. Secondly, for the price range, it is very well made and sturdy. Most of the components are metal which appears to make them rigid and durable. A rigid telescope makes them sturdy and shake free. It's 40,000 object database gives you enough things to look at for years and years. The 4" optics on this is superb and the overall package is well worth the money. It is great for looking at planetary objects and deep sky. Highly recommended.

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I've used this telescope since June 2009. The NexStar 8 SE provides pretty good views, but the computerized mount is literally a piece of junk. I'll tell you why. Problems with the mount: 1. Battery compartment: Lots of space taken up for batteries, but batteries only work for a few minutes. This thing eats batteries, and doesn't come with a power cord! Further, the battery compartment design is poor, with two battery holders dangling by their wires. The battery holders must be placed a certain way after batteries are installed into them. There's only one way to place the battery holders and still be able to close the compartment cover, but there are a few ways to place the battery holders incorrectly. If you want to be able to close the battery compartment, you'll probably have to look up the instructions on the internet. You'll need to by the optional AC power cord (which is what I did since I'm always observing within an extension cord's length of an electrical outlet), or the 12V cord along with a 12V battery in order to use this scope. 2. Noise: I know everything seems louder at night... in the dark... when you're supposed to be quiet. But slewing at moderate to fast speed with this thing is like a freight train coming down the tracks. It's not a problem if you're not near anyone, but the many times I've been in my backyard or up at the lake with this scope, I've worried about disturbing neighbors. 3. No clutch in azimuth: This means you can't move the mount in a sideways direction without using the power-hungry, fantastically noisy motor. You can move the mount in altitude manually, but not in azimuth. Truly a bummer. 4. Spur gears: There's a lot of slop in the gears, so when you begin to slew the scope it often doesn't actually begin to move for a short period of time. No big deal, but it's annoying. 5. Time isn't saved: As others have mentioned, having to enter the time each time you turn on the mount is just ridiculous. 6. Cheap hand controller: The screen on my hand controller came loose and tilted within a couple of weeks of use. LCD screen doesn't work well in cold weather. I know this is a common problem with these types of controllers, but cold weather is a common condition for astronomical observing. Celestron and all other manufacturers really should take this into account and install a heating element in the controller. (I know all the workarounds - use handwarmers, put the controller in your jacket, attach your own heating element, etc. - but they're just not convenient.) There's obviously no intention of minimizing power consumption with this mount, so adding a heating element wouldn't be a big deal. 7. Built-in bubble level: There isn't one. 8. Defective (at least mine is): I'm in the process of sending my mount to Celestron for warranty repairs because it no longer slews properly at slew speeds slower than 8 or 9 during alignment. So, at a slew speed of 5 which is the default for alignment, the mount doesn't move at all. It's too bad I have to pay for sending it in, when I'd really rather just get a better mount. Problems with the tube: 1. Focus knob: The focus knob shakes and moves the mirror way too much. If I didn't know better I'd think it was a defect. But I know better. It's not considered a defect. It's just a bad design that amateur astronomers apparently don't mind too much. 2. Accessory mounting holes: Ideally, you'd have a red-dot finder and 9x50 finderscope mounted to the top of the tube. You can't do that with this scope unless you're willing to get out your drill. There are mounting holes at approximately the 2 o'clock position and 4 o'clock position, so most people will probably use those using the topmost holes for the red-dot finder and the lower ones for the magnified finderscope. There should be another set of holes on the top of the tube somewhere between 10 and 2 for the purpose of mounting accessories. There are a few things I like about the scope: 1. Portable: Compared to my 10" dob, the 8 SE is quite portable, and this is the primary reason I bought it. I've been able to take it to the lake (where the sky is much darker) on many occasions. 2. Tracking: Once aligned the mount tracks pretty well. I've left the scope tracking for over an hour, to find that the object of interest was still in the field of view when I returned. For me, the bottom line is that the NexStar 8 SE has too many problems, and shouldn't be considered by anyone new to astronomy. Considering the design quality, the 8 SE is overpriced. You can get a bigger and better telescope for less than half the price if you're willing to give up the computerized object locator and the tracking ability that's inherent in such a mount. Trust me. If you're a beginner in reasonably dark skies (meaning you can actually see and locate stars with just your eyes) then a computerized mount like this one will frustrate you far more than it will help you.

This whole package is disappointing. I got it for Christmas and while I can get it out and see some stuff the features of the telescope simply don't work. The automated, computerized system gets you pointed in the general direction of what you're looking for but can't actually find it. And, once you've gone through the alignment procedure and tried to find something (which it can't quite do) the keys on the control pad don't work. So, you end up shutting it off and restarting it just so you can move it around and try to see something. The computer doesn't work. Simple as that. I also called Celestron's Technical Support and was less than impressed. The guy didn't even seem familiar with the operation of the unit and then just told me that "I wasn't using it right". Sorry, dude, but I was. Lastly, the software bundled with it isn't that hot either. It's a neat idea, but it won't take the time from your computer and seems determined to insert some other time (in my case I live in the US central time zone and the software insists on using Pacific time), even though I check and tweak the computer "Date and Time" settings and hit the button. I've had to delete and reinstall the program three times. No joy. As a telescope I think it works reasonably well, but all the money for the computerized mount and the software is wasted. Personally I'd probably get something else if I were you. Good luck.

I have a professional degree in astronomy before turning to medicine. I also have over 40 years of observing experience. This is a wonderful off-the-shelf telescope for the amateur observer who is mainly interested in visual observing. Optical and mechanical quality and image stability are excellent. I use a digital camera with it for planetary and lunar work, but I don't do deep-sky photography. This type of alt-azimuth drive/mount is not really designed for serious deep-sky photography, but it is terrific for visual observing. My only complaint is that it does not have an onboard memory clock, so the time, date, and location must be re-entered with each use. That is a crazy software design. The other complaint is that the unit I have does not know about the change in daylight savings time dates that was made last year. It is a small hassle, but a hassle nonetheless.

I first was able to see the rings of Saturn in high school during an all-night science class (sort of a sleep over thing, we all got up at 3am, and one of the students had a 6.5-inch reflector telescope). I'd never seen the level of power or detail before and it made me realize that, when you want to get serious about amateur astronomy, there's no substitute for size. I waited years to afford a 6.5 or 8-inch telescope. I finally decided to buy this Celestron after much research. For the price and all the listed features, this telescope is a disappointment. Out of the box, I noticed pieces missing. Celestron customer service (likely in India, China or Jamaica) doesn't provide humans to speak with. Only terse online text responses. No luck getting the piece I needed. A buddy and I set up the scope and the first thing that happened was that the batteries that came with the telescope shorted out and literally spilled acid inside the battery tray. I cleaned the tray and put in freshly-charged rechargables. They ran out of power extremely fast. So, I put in brand-new disposable batteries. Three out of four alignment attempts didn't work. Finally got it aligned. Motors seems to be really sloppy and very imprecise. Stars and planets weren't where they were supposed to be. Scope does not track so, by the time you see something cool and tell your friend to look, it's totally out of sight. I personally have found that, other telescopes with manual adjustments, are much easier to make slight adjustments to than this scope. With this scope, it was way to easy to overshoot in any given direction with the motor. Objects viewed didn't look anything like the pictures on the web / marketing materials. I used it on a clear dark night with the optional Celestron accessory pack. Obviously astrophotography (with a light aperture held open) will yield better results than the human eye, but I still question whether the photographs I saw in marketing materials for this scope were actually taken by this model of scope. Very disappointing. Too big to ship back once assembled. To disassemble the unit and ship it back would be like doing a 100 piece 3D jigsaw puzzle.

I am a beginner to astronomy and I find this is the perfect scope to begin and continue my adventure with. Its about as much telescope as you can have that is still be portable. It is solid and I can carry it out in one piece. Every time I take it out I learn more about astronomy. It is also an excellent platform to grow in the future with accessories, such as anti-vibration pads, upgraded finderscope, and a focal reducer. I am very pleased and would recommend it to anyone.

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I was a beginner astronomer and I must say that this christmas gift has done me right. It's an easy scope to use and gets great visuals of space. I really enjoy examining the craters of the moon, but you can also see some other great objects as well. Well worth the price and great for the beginner to intermediate astronomer. I brought it to my astronomy club and they all got a kick out of it and the sturdiness of the tripod. They all approved even with their 12-16inchers my 5 incher held it's own in their eyes. Great starter scope. -Reagan

Easy to setup, skyalign worked on my first try, really liked it, except maybe for the eyepieces, they could be ploss ones.

i have been watching the sky for a few months, and purchased this scope through amazon, im in the middle of a large nieghborhood, with trees and fences all around my back yard, that said, i have not had much luck w the go to function,it has taken me to saturn and the moon, but some targets will make it point at the ground. so i was kinda disappointed, then i ordered the 2inch eyepiece kit by celestron also from amazon, it is a huge difference, i was using a galileo, the two scopes are not that much different, outside the motorized mount,and 2inch viewer.; so for watching the sky, this is a great scope, i must admit, i had thought maybe it would identify the stars im looking at, but now i realize that would be a tall order even for nasa, in new orleans, this scope shows the sky to be full of stars. i say this is a good deal and a good scope, not many scopes have the 2inch option, and celestron seems to get better and more reviews than ioptron, for beginners, telescopes like this will take sum time, but your patience will be rewarded(alton brown) update, got the vixen 3856 3.5 eyepeice, ring of saturn was huge, and the moon was awesome, very cool eyepiece, makes my scope seem new again. 9-9-09, finally found juptier, with the vixen 3.5, it was very impressive, and its four moons were very bright, still enjoying the nexstar 130, looking into getting skyscout connect, which would connect my skyscout to the scope, making it gps, find a star with skyscout, and the scope w slew to the object w a touch of a button, for 99$ seems like the next step in my set up

A couple of negatives to start with. As others have indicated, once the electronics are turned off the current time is not kept. If you forget this important point aligning will not work. Next point. Double check that the tightening screw that secures the optical tube to the mount is tight every time you use the scope. I neglected to do this and the thing slid out of the mount and hit my patio. Unbelievably, nothing broke and the scope's collimation was not knocked askew. The good news is you can be using this scope in a manner of minutes after just a little practice. The optics are good and the tracking is too when you consider how inexpensive this machine is. Adding weight to the accessory tray helps with stability.

I'm still learning how to use it but so far the things I see with it are amazing.

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This is my first telescope. It arrived in 3 well packed boxes. I did take the time to read the instruction manual first and I recommend you do the same. Assembly and set up was easy. There are many ways to align this telescope. I chose quick align so I could start playing with the controller. Don't worry about messing something up just get familiar with it. I then used the utility "factory settings" to reset everything back to the way it was out of the box. I then chose the alignment procedure and all the options I wanted to use and set them up correctly this time. The telescope tracks beautifully and the view is stunning. You will be very pleased with this telescope. The equatorial mount , which contains all the functionality, comes with an extra dovetail mounting plate. So you can mount another telescope you may have instead of this one and turn it into a computerized unit if you desire. I am setting my telescope up in a corner of a store room at my home that i have converted into a roll off roof observatory. The whole thing breaks down into a tripod, equatorial mount, and telescope for transporting if you desire to make it portable.

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This is my first telescope and I couldn't be happier with the overall quality of the construction and ease of setting up, no tools required. This is a great starter telescope for the money paid with no extra taxes and free shipping how could I complain it was a great deal in my opinion.

Overall this was a good purchase. My son is a new star gazer and this is just what we needed. It was easy to put together. It took a little while to find something in the sky. We could see the moon great and even make out its craters. I wish we had more magnification--can get more lens for extra purchase however. It is a sturdy telescope and we are happy with it so far. As for delivery, it was here the next day--that blew my socks off!!

the quality of the item is OK. I am looking for a suitable power telescope to look more details on the planets near us. This item can not do it. I used a camera with digital zoom to look at the moon, the result is better than using this item.

The telescope tube is good, but the only bad on this part is the tripod stand, it does not tighten the telescope to a particular location, it should have been more sophesticated and easy to tighten up. I am not at all happy with the tripod

I was disappointed when the 1st one we received was damaged since it was for Christmas. We sent it back to Santa and received a new one quickly! My son loves his telescope and so does my hubby. It's easy to use and the clarity is good. It's a good, inexpesive option for your little astronomer!

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The telescope is very hard to work for children under 13. I was hoping to be able to set it up for my nephew, but it was hard for several grown people to try to focus the thing. My nephew said that the moon looked bigger if he just stared at it instead of looking inside of this thing. You know what they say, children always say the truth.

I purchased this knowing I wanted a bottom of the line disposable product and I was not dissappointed. It is OK for the price as long as you immediately pitch the tripod into the nearest handy active valcano. You are much better off using your hands and a nearby tree or other support. Everything else works just fine for watching wildlife, but I would not expect it to do well for stargazing.

a pair of binoculars works better than this telescope. It's really hard to find the target and does not bring clearer picture than binoculars. My 7 old son played with it two hours and has not touched for a few weeks. We'll see it can be used for birds watching.

I purchased one at Walgreen's for $12.75 on close out merely as a demonstration for others of what not to buy. Sure, it is much better than what Galileo made, himself, 400 years ago, but: 1) The product is advertised on the box by the magnification it yields. The manufacturer is betting that you do not know that "quality" is based on light gathering ability (the diameter of the front lens, for a refractor telescope, or the diameter of the rear mirror, in a Newtonian reflector) and NOT by the magnifications printed on the box. 2) The mount is totally flimsy. The constant wobbling prevents clear viewing. A good mount should be able to dampen the vibrations after focusing, for example, in about 2 seconds. This one took about 15 seconds or more. And never stopped even with a light breeze. A solid camera tripod would improve the setup 10-fold. 3) The lowest power eyepiece (12mm/50x) exceeds the performance ability of the telescope for nighttime viewing. A general rule is that the maximum useful magnification = 25 x the diameter (in inches) of the lens (or mirror). The 2" lens x 25 = 50. 4) The eyepieces are poor. Only the very center of them appears to come to focus, with the rest of the image being blurry. And that's with daytime viewing. I can only imaging the collimation flaws in the optics when looking at stars. 5) The eyepieces are inferior, obsolete 0.965" barrel diameter. Today's eyepieces are a universal 1.25" (and 2" diameter for highest quality ones). 6) The box shows color images of the Orion nebula and the Pleiades. Color can only be achieved through time-exposure photography with the telescope on an equatorial mount. With VERY few exceptions (such as a 12" Newtonian reflector), color will NEVER be visible through an eyepiece on any telescope. When color is perceived, it is only when viewing the brightest emission nebula, and then the effect is a slight green color effect. If you are interested in a telescope, check out your local astronomy club for advice. Avoid any refractor less than 3" or any reflector less than 6 inches.

I bought this for $20 at our local drugstore to use with my son. Once I got home and started to use it, though, I found the image was completely blurry and I couldn't see anything clearly... although I noticed objects directly in front of the lens were sharply in focus. After noticing about half of the reviews all across the Internet for this telescope were positive and half were negative, it occurred to me to check the objective lens (the big one at the end of the tube). Sure enough, once I unscrewed the piece that housed the lens and flipped it around, the telescope began functioning properly. I secured the housing back in place with some electrical tape. I think this solution should solve the problem for buyers experiencing the blurriness issue. Cheap materials (and apparently careless production) limit this telescope to young children or very casual astronomers. The eyepieces that come with the set are not terribly powerful (the moon will appear about the size of a dime) and I will try to locate some inexpensive upgrades. Luckily, the telescope has a screw attachment that will connect with a standard camera tripod, because the tripod that comes with the set is flimsy and not terribly useful for fine movements. In summary, I would recommend this telescope, with the caveat that you may need to do some fiddling to get it working properly and the magnification is not very powerful. However, the cheap price makes all of that palatable.